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Promotions Committee
Meeting Minutes – June 20, 2011
City Hall
Present: Lynn Darnall, Victoria Blatchford, Rob Peterson, Amy Einspahr, Jerry Miller,
Leah Brink, Zeno Wicks III, Anthony Sutton, Tom Jones, Tom Richter, Deb Garbers and
Bridgit Burghardt.
Chairperson Blatchford called the meeting to order at 12:18 p.
Agenda additions: Wicks requested to give an update on Mom’s Weekend, item will be
added as 6a.
June 6 Minutes: Wicks motioned to approve, Jones seconded. Motion Carries.
Financials: Wicks motioned to approve, Jones seconded. Discussion: Burghardt
mentioned the third B tax has been going up. Motion Carries.
Branding Update: Blatchford explained part of the hold-up regarding the ice cream
coupon was the individual they were working with is no longer there. Garbers added we
are working on the coupon and will have it done today. Blatchford mentioned at the July
meeting we will have to discuss the brand contract, Koroglu is interested in continuing in
the roll of brand manager. Blatchford will send out an updated timeline report.
Convention Report: Burghardt reported the Men’s Division 1 & 2 State Softball
Tournament has been moved to Brookings from Pierre due to flooding. Blatchford
questioned what part we played in this? Burghardt explained we had worked with the
local contact on previous tournaments. He called the office and we provided the
requested information and got the tournament. We have a good working relationship with
the local organizer. Garbers added we have a lot of positive items taking place. Wicks
questioned if the positive items are getting into the paper? Blatchford mentioned Jonathan
Burns with Friends of Baseball sent positive comments about Deb and Bridgit.
Garbers mentioned the average for economic impact has gone up due to the increase in
business. Garbers continued the incentives are working, other CVB Directors ask what
we are doing. Jones questioned if everyone offers incentives? Blatchford added they do
for State High School activities. Garbers explained they do, but not everyone can do what
we can. It also depends on what you define as an incentive.
Mom’s Weekend: Wicks reported he spoke with Provost Nichols and she is on board.
He suggested having Heather Costello contact Burghardt regarding a good weekend in
April.
Wicks continued we need to figure out a way to have mom’s come, might need to visit
with UPC about putting on a concert for the moms. Blatchford questioned what April
looks like regarding events. Burghardt responded she would have to check, but
traditionally Willie Mac basketball and Jackrabbit Rodeo are held in April.
Third Year Funding Policy: Sutton questioned if the policy would affect anyone on
campus? Questioned if the policy would apply to SDSU student funds? Blatchford
responded she was thinking the policy would be overall. Peterson added Event/Quality of
Life events are probably not going to be money makers, does that need to be a policy?
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Question if we focus this towards tournaments? Blatchford mentioned she feels it’s
bigger than just non-profits. Richter stated if the policy is limited to non-profits, that
make sense, whenever you make a policy, there is a grey area. We want events that are
attracting people. Richter continued that he feels the way it is worded is fine. Einspahr
mentioned having a problem using city funds to help with fundraisers and questioned if
that is an appropriate use of the funds. Blatchford questioned where do you draw the line
if the event is bringing people from out of town and a fundraiser? Wicks questioned if it
should be a three year model and then shift over to Garbers and Burghardt to do
everything they can do to keep them happy. Wicks added fundraising is ok, but it can’t be
the purpose of the application. Willie Mac will make money, but they provide more
impact than we are donating to them. Accept non-profit applications but fundraising is
not main goal. Blatchford mentioned fundraising is not our goal, feel it does not need to
be stated in the policy. Wicks mentioned by having the option to submit a letter, it puts it
back in a subjective place. Wicks added after three years the applicant better be coming
in with numbers. Some events are not generating impact. Brink stated the main focus is
economic impact, not profit vs. non-profit. Blatchford explained we look at historical
information when they apply. Einspahr questioned if we are already doing this, why are
we talking about a policy? Blatchford responded we are getting better overtime, adds
framework around decisions for return on investment. Garbers mentioned this happened
before with the CVB committee. Garbers continued have three years of funding, at the
end of three years have a one on one review and the application gets moved into the
media plan which consists of the calendar of events, facebook, newsletters, that sort of
thing. Media plan value is anywhere from $100-$1,000. They receive funding for three
years, the fourth year and beyond they are plugged into the media program. Jones
mentioned the SDSU Rodeo, we talk about it every year and funding goes to Suttons.
Wicks mentioned they are for profit. Sutton responded their goal is to make money, what
is our goal? Garbers added every event is different. Einspahr mentioned we are charged
by the city to do this, we are charged by the city to generate economic impact. Should we
add to this end our primary goal is economic impact? Blatchford mentioned she liked
Sutton suggestion. As far as return on investment, what is that number? What kind of
return are we ok with? Wicks added last year generated x for return on investment, we
are letting them know where we are at. Suggest not having this in the policy, but in a
letter send out so they understand we have a policy. Garbers added you do not want to set
a number. Blatchford questioned at what point do we make adjustments? Wicks stated
after third year, shift to Garbers and Burghardt. Blatchford questioned if we put in place
that after third year if CVB feels they are doing good things, they could come back for
funding? Blatchford questioned if we are still talking about just non-profits? Feel it’s
bigger than that. Wicks mentioned that if after the third year it shifts to Garbers and
Burghardt, they need a revenue stream; they can’t take out of current transfer amount.
Einspahr explained she understood that if on the fourth year, if this is something we
should consider, it comes back to the committee, otherwise it gets put into the media
plan. Replace the sentence about the letter with: After the third year, funding requests
will be transferred to the CVB for review and the CVB will make recommendations to
the Visitor Promotions Committee for potential funding alternatives. Wicks questioned if
we need to add the word definitive for recommendations? Blatchford responded not sure
if we need it. Einspahr suggested adding assistance after event funding in the first
sentence of the first paragraph. Garbers suggested using the word support, Einspahr
questioned if it should be subsidy? Garbers explained the public does not like the word
subsidy. Sutton mentioned adding the word assistance in front is fine. Miller suggested
taking out the word event and just calling it funding. Miller continued that he is ok with it
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as long as we can bring the applications back. Miller questioned if we have a declining
formula? Blatchford responded it depends on the return on investment. If the goal for the
first year is $75 return on investment, we need to reduce the funding the second year to
keep with the same return on investment. Still want to get the same return on investment,
only fund at a lower level. Put it back on the organization to get return on investment.
Einspahr mentioned there is a place to be vague and a place to be specific. We do not
want to box ourselves in, leave it vague. We can set up a formula without putting it in the
policy. Sutton stated we don’t need a policy of declining formula, have Garbers and
Burghardt make recommendations. Blatchford suggested taking out the sentence
regarding declining. Wicks suggested ending the 1st paragraph with based on information
provided by applicant. We get caught in a trap that they ask for more than they need.
Change the first paragraph to include based on calculations. Have the VPC mission, to
this end, when making financial decisions events that generate the highest return on
investment. Funding preference is given to those events that provide the highest return on
investment. Remove the sentence about financial decisions. Burghardt will make changes
to the policy and send the draft policy to the committee for review and revisions.
Regarding SDSU, the purpose for those requests are to keep students in town. Sutton
recommended keeping the funds different. Leadership in the groups change might have to
look at a ten year average. As long as it keeps students in town and it’s good for campus,
looking at the fund balance why would we say no? Einspahr mentioned the first
paragraph states highest return on investment. Blatchford mentioned they won’t provide a
high return as the goal is different. When reviewing SDSU applications, look at how the
event will help keep students in town. Miller added SDSU student funds are exempt from
this policy. Recommend adding SDSU funding requests are reviewed by different
funding criteria as a separate paragraph at the end of the policy.
Miller questioned if we need to send to the city attorney for review? Blatchford
mentioned we set policies before that did not have to be sent to the attorney. Burghardt
will send the revised policy to the city manager and ask if we need to send to the city
attorney. Burghardt questioned if the policy is effective date passed or retroactive?
Committee responded retroactive.
Miller motioned to adjourn, Einspahr seconded. Meeting adjourned at 1:30p.