HomeMy WebLinkAboutTSMinutes_2007_12_13BROOKINGS TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMITTEE
City Hall meeting room
Thursday, December 13, 2007
12:10 p.m.
The Brookings Traffic Safety Committee held its monthly meeting on Thursday, December 13, 2007,
at 12:10pm in the City Hall meeting room.
Members Present: Brad Whaley, Louis Skubic, Daryl Englund, Skip Webster, Matthew Nelson,
Margie Wagner-Carpenter, Becky Thompson, Jackie Lanning, Brian Luders, Bryan Gums, Scott
Hodges, Dan Hanson, Jeff Weldon, Mike Fossum
Others Present: Mike Fossum
Call to Order: Margie called the meeting called to order. Louis/Skip moved to approve minutes of
the October 9th meeting. All present voted aye on the amended minutes. Motion carried.
Old Business:
New Business:
1) Discussion on: Drive-in food service condition used in the B-1 district(downtown business
district) . Jackie handed out a drawing that shows what the downtown boundaries are. Dan
Hanson gave an update on the Planning committee status. We are looking at adding a use to
the downtown district. Wanting to add Drive-thru restaurants. The draft is going to the planning
commission. Then, if approved or disapproved, it would then go to the city council in January
or February. This drive-in food service is what is called conditional use, not get it by right, and
you would have to apply and meet certain criteria and standards. What the planning committee
does is right the standards. What the planning committee is asking for is recommendation from
the traffic safety committee because of the important traffic issues in the downtown area. So,
traffic safety committee would get a chance to look at each specific proposal. The committee is
not asking for recommendation on the ordinance, just evaluation of individual requests. As an
advisory committee, you could make recommendation or maybe point out some important
things about specific instances for the planning commission to review and ultimately for the city
council to decide. Jackie mentioned that, if this is adopted, and requests come through, it could
be an intensive type of request where there is not a lot of room for stacking, and then a
different type of request where there is a lot of internal routing and you don’t have to have any
stacking so it really depends on the individual owner’s request. So traffic and pedestrian
impact can be very different depending on how much room they have to work with so, there
could be a wide variety or not very many applicants at all. Bryan Gums asked, if there is
criteria on how many vehicles you can stack? Dan said that’s in the ordinance. We have other
requirements for stacking from other ordinances, drive-in food services in towns and banks,
they all have stacking requirements to their service window or device. Skip Webster asked, as
far as traffic what other things are we talking about? Dan said some cases they may need to
do a curb cut or removal of parking onto Main Ave. They would like to run it past the traffic
safety committee that deals with these types of issues. The traffic safety committee would be
looking at the impact of this use to the motor public. And when the public exits off the property
what are some concerns we may see.
2) Request to remove parking on the east side of Sawgrass Drive near 15th Street South.
Jackie passed out a drawing of an aerial of a drawing of Sawgrass. Traffic Safety voted earlier
to remove parking on the North West side, because of the twin homes. Bryan Gums spoke
with a concerned citizen Todd who lives in the cul-de-sac off of Sawgrass. He said as you turn
onto Sawgrass Dr. now that we have removed parking on the West side. When people come
up to the stop sign it doesn’t leave a lot of room, because people park all the way up to 15th
street. So Todd requested if we could put a 20 ft no parking sign just to be able to get onto
Sawgrass easier. Jackie made the motion to remove 20 ft of parking at the North East
intersection of 15th St. So. and Sawgrass drive. All present voted aye. Motion carried.
Additions to Agenda:
1) Discussion of Valley View Addition: Jackie passed out a drawing showing in earlier discussions
back in April at that time Valley View was a 25 ft proposed street. One side was driving and the
other was parking. That went on to the City Council and what the City Council voted on at that
time was to continue to have the 45 ft right away for your street but they did also have the side
walks installed which the Traffic Safety recommended as well and having a 31 ft street with in
the 45 ft right away. So when we were looking through the street plans when the developers
were getting ready to put sewer and water. 3ft of grass from the sidewalk to curb is not enough
room for light poles and fire hydrant. They looked at different options. Example 1 light poles
and hydrant into the person’s property sided with an easement. Example 2 slide side walks
over and center it over the property line. But that would not be enough room for parking stalls.
Want 20 ft of parking stall for vehicles so they won’t hang over the sidewalk. Jackie also
added, what if we took our normal residential street shortened it by 2 ft on each side so you
would have a 27 ft side street back to back and if there were parking on one side you would
have about 18 ft for your driving area more than typical residential street where there is only 14
ft of driving area if you had parking on both side of the street. Updated the Traffic Safety
Committee that the Council did vote on option 2
Brad Whaley liked option 2 because of snow removal reasons. There is more boulevard to put
the snow on. As option 1 only having 2 ft of blvd. is not a lot of room to put snow on. One side
parking makes street cleaning a lot easier.
Jackie said another option would be to have a curb side sidewalk like we have on 22nd Ave.
So. And also on Main Ave So. But there have been a lot of complaints because of the snow
storage and the traffic throws up the snow on the sidewalks. Becky Thompson doesn’t like it
because of the pedestrian’s safety. Jeff Weldon asked how many blocks this would affect in
the Valley View Addition? Scott Hodges said about 3 blocks. Jackie said that this development
is somewhat isolated and would mainly affect the people that live there.
2) Speed Limit sign changed on Main St. So. Move farther to the South . Mike Fossum made this
request.
Jackie will look up the ordinance for the next meeting.
3) Removal of parking on one side of Torrey Pines and Blue Gill streets. Brad Whaley made this request.
Member Reports
Council voted to renew some of our memberships. Sergeant Thompson and Brian Lutters. Connie
Bridges got reappointed and this was Margie’s last meeting with us. Thank you.
The next meeting will be January 10, 2008. Meeting adjourned.
Submitted by: Chris Larson